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Saturday, July 30, 2005

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Hate Speech against Gays

Recently I have received some criticism for conducting "Hate speech against Gays".

Of course, its a ridiculous accusation. However, since people are so confused and suggestible I thought it would be wise for me to state my opinion for all to see.

I dont believe you will find one single example of "hate speech" against Gays, at least by me. If you do, find it and I will gladly apologize.

For the record, I dont believe we should hate anyone and we certainly should not hate gays. As the Christians say (and frequently dont do) we should hate the sin but love the sinner.
Anyone who cares to may look at my past posts and see that I have spoken out against homosexualty, but that is not the same thing as "hating" Gays.

I have also have spoken out against Alcoholics Anonymous violating its own tradition and subtly (and not so subtly) endorsing the gay life style. They do this by equating Gays to Blacks, Native Americans, and women on the GSO website. They also do it by having Gay meetings. They have also done it by inviting Gay/Lesbian workshops at International AA conventions. GSO has also passed out non-conferenced approved literature in support of Gay/Lesbian movement.They have also done it by including in the 4th edition of The Big Book of AA the story of an unrpentant homosexual "Tightrope".

If you look carefully at my website: Http://Christianrecovery.blogs­­pot.com you will see that I have links to ex-gay ministries. I have personally met former Homosexuals who have repented and God has healed them of this sin. I honestly believe it is more Love for the Homosexual to refer them to these reparative organizations than it is to accept their perverse lifestyle as if it wasn't sin.

So to be accused of "hate speech" is a lie and distortion.In moden America most people who speak out against the homosexual lifestyle are accused of being "Haters". It goes with the territory. I accept that but Im not going to let them make false accustions without responding with a truthful defense.

Many Alcoholics are grateful to AA for helping them stop drinking, and they dont like criticism of AA. That doesnt mean it shouldnt be done. I speak up in the hope that some of these fairly decent AA's will see the truth of what I am saying, and in turn speak up themselves. If they are praying for the knowledge of God's will for them and the power to carry it out, I believe it may happen. That is how change happens.

Modern AA has become morally corrupt. Just like the Apostate "Christian Churches" are corrupt for accepting Gay ministers and Bishops. I intend to keep speaking up on the issue whenever it is timely.

8 Comments:

Anonymous Walt said...

Quote" I have personally met former Homosexuals who have repented and God has healed them of this sin."/Quote

You actually believe God "cures" homosexuality???????? Get a clue, pal. NO ONE has EVER been "healed," because it's NOT a disease. You can beat a homo down with the Bible and shame him/her into suppressing his/her God given feelings, but you CANNOT cure homosexuality.

"You people" think God hates homosexuality so much, but did you ever ask yourself why he would allow animals to have gay relationships? Check-out Bottlenose dolphins sometime...they have same-sex relationships for life. During mating season the males mate with the females but then return to their partners.

For every homosexual interpretation in the Bible used to condemn gays, there's a counter-interpretation that the majority (heterosexual) of religous leaders refuse to accept. Read "The Children are Free" written by Rev. Jeff Miner & John Tyler Connoley for a different loving view instead of continuing your discrimination of gays.

Reperative therapy is an absolute joke...except it's not funny to those that end up committing suicide because they can't live upto YOUR expectations.

You got a problem with homo's? Let God deal with it!!! Same-sex marriage destroying "family?" Take a look at the 50% divorce rate. You realize don't you, adultery made it on the "Top 10" list, didn't it???? Where's homosexuality on that list, again??? Oh yeah, ITS NOT THERE!!! Seems like if God REALLY hates homosexuality as much you and your ilk claim, it would have made the list.

6:31 PM

 
Anonymous Anon said...

I never said God hates homosexuals. God can bring about repentance and change in the homosexual. Walt just doesn't want to accept that its true. Personally, I like Linda Carters ex-gay testimony. You can find it on the ex-gay link on my website or the exodus international website. Dont let naysayers like this Walt confuse you. There is help for homosexuals and the y can change. Here is a link to some facts on reparative therapy:


http://www.family.org/welcome/press/a0028749.cfm

8:15 PM

 
Anonymous Walt said...

Lies and more lies!!! If you want to know the truth about "reperative" therapy, check out this link...

http://www.waynebesen.com/columns/2005/07/love-in-action-co-founder-my-ministry.html

Smid, who curretly runs the ex-gay nazi camp, LIAr (Love in Action,) STILL admits he's homosexual even though he's been married for several years. YOU CANNOT CHANGE. You can SUPPRESS God-given feelings through self-hatred and guilt but YOU CANNOT CHANGE.

Reperative therapy is dangerous denounced and by ALL reputable medical associations, including the AMA, ACA, and APA.

Before seeking treatment from these money-grubbing pseduo-religious fanatics, SEEK KNOWLEDGE!!!

9:13 PM

 
Anonymous Anon said...

I'll leave Walts comments here for now. He is very irrational. The Truth is that God can change the heart of a homosexual. Please contact some of the groups I have suggested. I like the work of the Foundation of Human Understanding and Linda Carter is a nice sincere lady.Neither is into it for the money.

Walt, unless your comments are civil, I will delete them.

9:25 PM

 
Anonymous Walt said...

LOL irrational? I'm just so sick of hearing ignorant people calling it a choice and ignoring all the evidence.

I spent two years during my early 20's on the couch of a Christian counselor trying to "change" and guess what? You cannot change. Your choices are either live a miserable lonely life or get married and live a miserable loveless married life.

Homosexuals cannot love the opposite sex the same way heterosexuals can. Think of it as trying to love your best friend. Yeah, you can go out with him/her and have a nice time, but it's nothing compared to having a soulmate to share your love and life.

My friends would tell you I'm one of the nicest non-confrontational people you'd ever meet...and no, you'd never know I was gay...but I'm just so sick and tired of the Christian reich ignoring and suppressing the overwhelming evidence, both historical and current, just so they can beat down another minority.

Call me irrational, but I speak the truth and God truely knows my heart.

8:59 PM

 
Anonymous Anon said...

Walt, I dont think you'll ever find that I called Homosexuality a choice. Being a drug addict or alcoholic is not a choice either. My drug addiction was a result of traumatic experiences that happened to me in childhood. I didnt "choose" to be a drug addict. Although I am less familiar with the dynamics of Homosexuality it too is the result of trauma.

You spent 2 years with a counselor and had a bad experience. Frankly,most counselors dont have the understanding to be able to help someone.

We are born with a sin nature and we are shaped by the truamas in our childhoods in different ways. We dont "choose" to be that way.The choice to sin or not was used up by Adam, and we inherit a "choiceless" existence. Thats what we find salvation from.

However, you do have to admit your wrong and believe that God can help you. And he can.

If I was you Walt, I would contact the Foundation of Human Understanding and ask them if they have materials on Homosexuality. They probably have a few tapes that could help you. There is a link to them on my site.

People have recovered from homosexuality Walt and become happy human beings. Why dont you check it out?

10:28 PM

 
Anonymous Walt said...

Simply because homosexuality is not a sin and if people seek knowledge instead of taking others' word as gospel, they'll learn the truth too.

If you're homosexual and reading this, please don't believe the lies we've been misled to believe. You too can lead a happy normal monogamous homosexual life. Read "The Children are Free," which should be available from your local library or purchased online. There are many other materials available as well, but this is a good start.

I'll not return to write further...peace.

5:17 PM

 
Anonymous Anon said...

Well, can you see how deep and complete the denail of some people is? How can God forgive them when they are so stubborn and prideful, and wont admit they are wrong. Homosexual with conflict and anxiety can be helped, those that are unconflicted cannot be helped. Thank God if you are one and still have conflict.

5:50 PM

 

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